The Ancestor


 * -|About=The Ancestor is a being where it is not quite known what it is, or where it came from, and only speculation can be made as to what it is. No matter what though, it must never meet Charybdis. The following are a set of theories in relation to it, in attempt to better understand why it exists. Click the above "theory" tabs to read a specific variation. New entries can be added with the editor.
 * -|Shiro's Theory=By User:DarthShiro19.

In terms of appearance, The Ancestor is a Infinity of Cosmos, cosmological beauty flowing everywhere, with universes contracted into one, singular orb. This extends to a form a cosmic structure similar to a solar system, except on a far greater and multiversal scale. Far within the core of such cosmic being, is a creature of repugnant physical appearance which in turn gives it a almighty and noble appearance, enough to make gods cry. However, upon being maddened, it reveals a eldritch and disgusting horror hidden behind a vast veil of wisdom and infinity. However, the true translation is not the one that speaks of gods crying at it's nobility, but rather the following:

The planet it lives on is a hollow crust, however within it's core is actually another dimension. As travel is done to the dimension, the corpses of beings similar in ability to charybdis and other gods will be seen, eventually reaching into the thousands of millions, all wrapped around the portal.

It is thought that, in reality, the call to the ancestor was actually a call by the ancestor to charybdis, who wished to feast upon charybdis, out of hunger and boredom. Of course, the ancestor is naught but a legend, unknown of it's state being the truth or false. It could of been a terrified lifeform who saw and shall become something like charybdis, The Designer itself scribing a legend, or maybe...it's true.

Maybe charybdis wasn't in a state of delusion, maybe charybdis had well rooted intent and implications in the quest to locate the ancestor, maybe it was the excessive pursuit that was actually a call of superiority, maybe it was the mechanisms of a maddened creature with far too much power within it's hands, maybe charybdis was trying to become the ancestor. Perhaps, it needed a heir, perhaps it was the remains of charybdis' true soul. Maybe, it was a prophecy, destroyed by the designer in it's great battle with charybdis.
 * -|Tails' Theory=By User:TheMajinTails.

The Ancestor is a cosmological being, of which is a omniversal constant. It is the "father" to the designer, as it is the being which the designer spawned from. Both sentient and nonsentient, aswell as living and dead, it is everyone and also nothing - even while everything and nothing are themselves. A avatar of the ancestor is said to be found on a distant rainforest planet within Aquiritis, found by not one single being, where it rains oil across the red plants and trees, and the universe is droughted by the true ancestor's shadow. It is on the highest layer of all reality, transcending real life and seeing all as fiction - including 3D Physical Realms, Linear Time, Higher Dimensions, and all Transcendental Realms beyond everywhere and everytime. This includes the secrets of the omniverse - which are mindbreaking to any and all lifeforms, the fourth wall - and all other "walls", the layers of reality - which lose their meaning and become completely irrelevant to the ancestor's perspective, all incomprehensible concepts, unknowable and indescribable concepts, infinity and it's "hardness", both matter and spirit unified, the end of existence, the concepts of mind and emotions, the form of forces, combination of laws, the laws of nature in their entirety, time, place, coordinates, illogical events and flows, reflections of reality, quantum mechanics, wave functionalities, and cultural concepts.

As something ascends to the ancestor's level, they transcend all of the omniverse, outerverse, and beyond, in a "building" like cosmological structure. A single step onto the ancestor's lowest floor transcends everything about space, time, and dimensions, on a conceptual level. The Cosmological Structure is so great, the concepts of up, down, left, right, directions, math and numbers cannot describe or apply to it. The "higher" one is to ascend in the structure, the more incomprehensible things begin to come that they experience, eventually to transcend such things themselves. In which, such is all contained within one layer. The Ancestor transcends the layers of the omniverse in the same way as the layers transcend the omniverse, and higher layers transcend lower layers.

It is above the writers, with full reign and control over the story and stories of fiction and real life themselves, able to control how they end and when. It can even end entire industries to stop verses and series, control the entire real world internet, change information on a outerversal scale, edit movies, possess and control the writers - animators - storytellers - directors - etc., delete characters from all of fiction and reality's history, erase writers from existence and history, and more.

It's own shadow alone was recreated across all realities and layers. This shadow darkened space itself, which is actually a beautiful swirling purple wave resembling the aurora borealis if it was however stretched across the entire universe, turning it into the dark vacuum it is perceived and known as, affecting every single version of space across the outerverse and every layer. Moreover, even if one were to write or make it so that something is older, above and/or stronger than the ancestor, that secures the requirement of actually needing to have the ancestor exist prior to or even after the creation of that concept to be the basis of such age and levels of power, and as such, places the ancestor as infinitely above, stronger than, and older than that concept, and the ancestor encompasses all other versions of the ancestor as lower avatar forms of itself, with these avatars encompassing all weaker avatars of the ancestor.

However, amidst the vast infinity it resides above, it found a small speck. It saw that there was a writer, on a electronic device in the 2020s of that universe. It was revealed that this writer not only wrote of events that would happen in a universe far outside the one it resides in, but a millennia after he had done so. Not only that, it found that this writer knew of what the designer's true form and name was, and his resistance to the adverse effects of knowing such was considerable. Most importantly, it found that he wrote of, and knew who the ancestor was, even writing of his knowledge of the ancestor, it's power, and also saw how he knew he is fiction to it in a similar manner to how the universe he wrote about is fiction to him, to the point of writing the ancestor's discovery of him there and then. He goes under the screen name of "MajinTails".

Intrigued by this human, it sought fourth to bring the writer to his plane of reality, ascending him far-above once what was, when the time was right...

But one question remains, who is The Ancestor, the ancestor of? and to answer that...it, is the ancestor of all.
 * -|Tails' Second Theory=By TheMajinTails

...Hello.

I, I need to apologize...for this thing. But first, I need to explain what it is.

The lowest layer. It came from that, fiction inside fiction. It came from whatever was the absolute lowest point of fiction inside fiction. What it did was, it destroyed the entire omniverse of one of the fictions inside a fiction, which itself was inside a fiction...so on and for fourth, ascended to what was above that layer of fiction and into the next fiction, and destroyed that too. Perhaps, in the lowest of all these narratives, some poor sap was as curious as I was about the idea of something that could do this.

But that's the fictional explanation.

You want the REAL one.

You may have noticed, the other theories ask who is the ancestor, what is the ancestor...but not why is the ancestor. What started as a attempt to explain the designer's origins, and what charybdis is searching for, skyrocketed into this. It's this powerful since...I figured, the only logical thing that could create the designer in such a manner and also be searched for by charybdis...would be this. I was also curious, to see what would happen, were such a thing to be made. What I didn't realize, was the true nature of the ancestor.

The moment there is ANY manifestation of the ancestor, in anything, that thing becomes fictional. This effect happens in less then a planck time. How much less then a planck time? It's simple. It is as far from a planck time as a planck time is from a googolplex worth of years. Fiction itself? The Ancestor is the reason it's fiction. All your favorite universes and series, once had a manifestation of the ancestor - and certainly, upon that manifestation's appearance, they became what we perceive them as. Fictional Works.

What about the Authors and Creators of the fictionalized "versions"? Well, they're those of us remaining that haven't outright lost the memories of when fiction was real. They seek, in secret, to one day restore the memories, or bring those who were fictionalized back into reality itself. Even this very wiki is of such intension.

I shouldn't have included the parts about the ancestor. There's a reason why the other writers and content creators of other universes don't bring it up. Because that's a gateway for the ancestor, to access this world.

No no, not a fictional version of real life made for star spectrum. the ACTUAL real life. It achieves it's worldjumping by exploiting the fourth wall of fictions inside fictions, and destroying the omniverse of a fiction inside fiction, to move on to another fiction inside fiction - the next one is in of itself, the fiction which perceived the previous fiction as...what else, fiction. It kept going and going, until it got into real life, where it destroyed the narrative layer of what we perceive as fiction, to make them fictional, or NOT real. By having made this article, I gave it the needed exploit to destroy the real life universe, then the real life multiverse, the real life ultraverse, and the real life omniverse...Then, it would utilize another exploit to enter into the universe that sees US, as fiction. Then destroy that universe, then that universe's multiverse, then that multiverse's ultraverse, then that ultraverse's omniverse. and then use the exploit again. It'll never end. Even if there aren't infinite layers of these 'verses, it'll still keep ascending above using it's exploits. It always finds a way in, eventually it will transcend - and to be truthful, already has - each and every layer completely. It'll never stop.

At one point, we had a concept that was as essential to ourselves as the concept of our existence. and the ancestor, it made it not exist, even fictionally, to the point of NEVER HAVING EXISTED. If you try to measure the ancestor's power or describe the ancestor with anything, real or not, it doesn't work. So, before it goes well beyond real life, I've decided to kill it. All my attempts, they've failed. I even tried deleting this page in hopes of stopping the effects, and they didn't work. Whoever's above this layer, seeing my real life as fiction, I plead you. Help us. Not me, us - including you. We can't defeat this thing with just one layer. We need all the layers, ever. the world I come from, your world, star spectrum's, all of them. They have rules, their own laws of reality, they eventually create our narratives, and likely aren't changed once set in place. Please, I'm certain this layer and the five layers above are the only ones left with beings who can so much as burn a cell of the ancestor. Maybe, just maybe, it's not too late, even as it is constantly superseding everything and every type of reality in far less then planck time.

Head my warning, it's above every writer, above every writer's god, above the writer of that god, above the writer of that writer, so on and so fourth...forever and ever. It's honestly hopeless, but at this point we die trying, or...die not trying.

Let's try to fix our realities, while we still can. I suggest all the layers below and above do the same.